Pre-Grant Publication Number: 20110039521
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Andrea Casillas (about 2 years ago)
Plenty of prior art posted... great work! Now what do we send to the patent examiner? Help us and make sure to rate submissions with a "thumbs up" for extremely relevant.

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Yasemin Ersoy (about 2 years ago)
When the waiting caller receives the text message he/she will be charged for this message; shouldn't there be a way for the caller to decide if they want to be charged extra or not? Or, should the person using this feature be the only one charged for the message?
MoonSoo Choi (about 2 years ago)
That is a really good point. Honestly, I do not know the optimal solution to this, but what I would do is to ask the user to pay certain amount of service charge per month or year - while the service company takes charge of paying the text fees.

If the number of text fees exceed the regular service charge, the company should over-charge the user.
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MoonSoo Choi (about 2 years ago)
I feel that I am adding a comment to already numerous comments posted in this discussion tab...

So this patent application is certainly an extension of a previous patent, of "call waiting" feature. I would like to note that an extension of a patent does not necessarily mean that the extended patent should be obvious and un-novel - and I believe this patent application is another new innovation. However, if this one-click text system is all this tool has to offer, I think that's just rather too simple. My suggestion is pushing this idea further by coining different situations, such as, "what if there are more than one person calling while you're on the phone - would the "one-click text" system still work?", "if an user has 1000 contacts, and if he/she needs to type in 1000 different messages (because an user probably wouldn't want to send the same message to his/her grandma, boss, or a best friend, for example), wouldn't it be just inconvenient for the user to type in 1000 messages?".
Vivian C (about 2 years ago)
Right, I think the 'personalized' text message to the incoming caller is the novel and new idea to the existing 'call-waiting' feature patented previously. It expands on the idea that a set of canned responses can be sent out to the caller - reassuring the 'waiting caller'.
MoonSoo Choi (about 2 years ago)
The expansion of the idea is great. The biggest drawback of this patent application, though, is that this idea may not be quite marketable - this idea is not yet an innovation that companies can pay a lot of money for.
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Tony M (about 2 years ago)
I purchased a Nokia N95 back in 2007 (before the filing date) which had a feature matching this patent's description.
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Rolando Bermudez (about 2 years ago)
The new HTC EVO cellphone has this option very well integrated into the cellphone. I don't think any other cellphone could have done a better job. I couldn't find the proper prior art for it but there are many websites that talk about this feature in the phone.
Anish Gala (about 2 years ago)
I have the HTC EVO and have to agree with Rolando that this option is superb for the phone and the customization of the default message is a great addition. I was unable to upload the Sprint HTC EVO User Guide to the prior art but under page 16 (or page 26 if in PDF form), it talks about this capability. I am also certain that many other Sprint phones before this have had the same option, not as well integrated however.
Rolando Bermudez (about 2 years ago)
Hey Anish, I'm glad to hear that you have personally experienced this feature. I simply read it in a technology website. I also read the user guide though and I have to agree that it seems to match what it is mentioned in this patent application.
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Sang Han (about 2 years ago)
Don't you think this is more of idea than a patent? Anyone can think of this idea, but your application should have included the method you are going to use to ensure it is different from and better than similar applications already available.
Manny Schecter (about 2 years ago)
It is certainly not a properly set out claim - it is too vague for one to understand what the inventor believes to be the precise invention - see some of the earlier discussion posts.
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Anne Chen (about 2 years ago)
I agree with Eun Sol Cho, as I would not have immediately thought of such a feature for call-waiting. However, it does seem that there are already mobile applications that provide similar services- they are just not widely used yet.
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Eun Sol Cho (about 2 years ago)
I think the idea itself is very non-obvious, but the only problem is whether there is a prior art for this invention since many reviewers here seem to have seen this application somewhere before.
Sang Han (about 2 years ago)
It's not really about the prior art that is already available. The applicant should have researched more on the method than an idea of how it works. Even if this application is accepted as a patent, I don't see how applicant will really apply this to actual mobile.
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Deepti Rajendran (about 2 years ago)
The claim itself isn't specific about networks - will it work for all phone networks? Can it only be implemented on some phones? If CDMA networks don't allow you to use data and voice at the same time, how is this application feasible?
Rishi Rawat (about 2 years ago)
the phone call would be terminated before sending the text message
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Peter Lee (about 2 years ago)
It sounds interesting but it can be easily implemented by phone companies or even the phone manufacturer. However, CDMA networks might have problem because they can't use data and voice at the same time.
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Bong Su Jang (about 2 years ago)
This idea seems interesting, but I guess this idea is not innovative to be accepted. I also agree with Manny that no proper claim is included.
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Teng Kuei Tan (about 2 years ago)
Auto SMS Reply 2.0 is another Windows Mobile software that has the same functionality
Rishi Rawat (about 2 years ago)
Power SMS also has similar functionality
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Teng Kuei Tan (about 2 years ago)
Method for call waiting feature is not a new invention. DoNotDisturb is actually a software that claim to to the same thing, but available on May 3rd 2005.
Manny Schecter (about 2 years ago)
Do you have a publicly available source for evidence that DoNotDisturb was available on the date you specify?
Teng Kuei Tan (about 2 years ago)
I made a mistake on the exact date because Engadget is a bit late on the news. Ver 3.3 was actually released April 21, 2005 according to CNET download. The date was 2 and a half years earlier than the priority date of this patent application.
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Manny Schecter (about 2 years ago)
Indeed this is not a new invention - I've posted prior art. In addition, this patent application needs to be rejected because no proper claim is included - I based the prior art on description of the invention because the claim fails to particularly point out the features believed to distinguish the invention.
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Haritha Tapa (about 2 years ago)
I think its a very nice idea. Lets say we have a scenario where A calls B and B answers A and starts talking to A, lets say C calls B at the same time, according to this idea, B can press a button which would send a txt message to C and C would know that B had seen his/her call. When B presses a button, there will still be some interruption in the conversation with A, the sound produced by the button is a minor interruption to A.
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Brian Fong (about 2 years ago)
great idea. Not obvious, useful, novel. I really haven't heard of anything about this before.